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alt.culture.zippies ~ Do Zippies and Rainbows mix?

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.zippies
From: eshorer@eis.calstate.edu (Edward Eugene Shorer)
Subject: Do Zippies and Rainbows mix?
Date: 6 Jul 1994 18:12:44 -0700
Organization: California Technology Project of The Calif State Univ
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I don't quite get it (maybe it's the "vision thing"), but how do these seemingly different groups mix? I'm sure there are things in common, but my experience with Rainbow Gatherings (15 years ago) reminds me of possessionless times. Are Zippies carrying around laptops? Just where are they plugging in those things? Was it Wavy Gravy who said, "the '90s are just lik e the '60s; only 30 years later."? Do Rainbow people continue to be non-electric? When I left for Japan in '78 microwave ovens were anathema. Now there's no apparent danger zone, and nary of word of bad about 'em. Who's in control of public opinion, anyway?

-- Ed.
Shorer eshorer@ctp.org



Newsgroups: alt.culture.zippies
From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa)
Subject: Re: Do Zippies and Rainbows mix?
Date: 8 Jul 1994 03:03:41 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Undergraduate Association, UC Berkeley
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In article <2vfkqc$p7i@eis.calstate.edu>,
Edward Eugene Shorer wrote:
>I don't quite get it (maybe it's the "vision thing"), but how do these
>seemingly different groups mix? I'm sure there are things in common, but
>my experience with Rainbow Gatherings (15 years ago) reminds me of
>possessionless times.

I don't know the details but apparantly they do mix -- someone I know
just got back from the Wyoming Rainbow Gathering and said that Rainbow
people + Zippies had a great time.

Sorry, but I have no other details to report.

Laura



Newsgroups: alt.culture.zippies
From: ggoff@rain.org (Greg Goff)
Subject: Re: D o Zippies and Rainbows mix?
Date: 7 Jul 1994 20:09:03 -0700
Organization: Regional Access Information Network (RAIN)
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Edward Eugene Shorer (eshorer@eis.calstate.edu) had this to say:
> I don't quite get it (maybe it's the "vision thing"), but how do these
> seemingly different groups mix? I'm sure there are things in common, but
> my experience with Rainbow Gatherings (15 years ago) reminds me of

The zippies, so the story goes, are a fusion of New Age Travellers (who sound a lot like a UK version of the Rainbow Family) and urban techno-ravers (who sound a lot like... well, urban techno-ravers). These two seemingly incompatible groups were drawn together, as I understand it, because they were both getting hassled/beaten up/jailed, &c by Maggie Thatcher's fun killer squads. Members of the two groups discovered that they had more è in common than was previously suspected, and set about teaching eachother how to groove in their unique ways. Love blossomed. A new, synthetic philosophy emerged. The zippies were born.

I think that the Rainbows ought to get along fine with the zippies, since half of the latter (so I am told) are New Age Travellers. We'll see what actually happens.

> possessionless times. Are Zippies carrying around laptops? Just where

Yes.

> are they plugging in those things? Was it Wavy Gravy who said, "the '90s

Portable photovoltaic arrays (one hopes :)

> are just like the '60s; only 30 years later."? Do Rainbow people
> continue to be non-electric? When I left for Japan in '78 microwave
> ovens were anathema. Now there's no apparent danger zone, and nary of
> word of bad about 'em. Who's in control of public opinion, anyway?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Why, you are, Ed :)

-- Greg



Newsgroups: alt.culture.zippies
From: gjohnson@netcom.com (Serendipitous Freelance Hacker)
Subject: Re: Do Zippies and Rainbows mix?
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+---- eshorer@eis.calstate.edu wrote:
| [...] Was it Wavy Gravy who said, "the '90s
| are just like the '60s; only 30 years later."?
+----

I think it was "The 90's are just the 60's upsidedown" or maybe
on its head.
--
Gary Johnson (Freelance Hacker) gjohnson@netcom.com
"Is anything in base 1 infinity?"



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